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Subject:
GIMP Wins!
Date:Sat, 24 Jan 2009 14:04:26 +0100
I've been a serious amateur photographer for about 38 years now. Though I've been in quite a few photo shows through the years... I was recently given my first feature. The large photo that I placed in the gallery window was done in GIMP. By using the "edge detect" feature I got an effect that is equivalent to doing a darkroom solarization. Though I get tons of good comments, I don't think that any one knows that by using GIMP, it took me all of five minutes worth of work, (if that much).
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Subject:
Re: GIMP Wins!
Date:Sat, 24 Jan 2009 18:53:49 +0100
On Sat, 24 Jan 2009 07:04:26 -0600, philo wrote: > I've been a serious amateur photographer for about 38 years now. > > Though I've been in quite a few photo shows through the years... > I was recently given my first feature. > > The large photo that I placed in the gallery window > was done in GIMP. > > By using the "edge detect" feature I got an effect that is equivalent to > doing a darkroom solarization. > > Though I get tons of good comments, > I don't think that any one knows that by using GIMP, > it took me all of five minutes worth of work, > (if that much). One of the major problems with Gimp is quality and complete up to date (latest version) documentation along with an abundance of quality 3rd party documentation and tutorials that are not written by propeller heads. There needs to be more photo-centric type of documentation as opposed to graphic arts. This is available in Photoshop. Now with the existing Gimp documentation one can figure out how to do many of the basics but it is more difficult to go beyond. Just look at the supporting books that claim to be up to date but are many versions behind. And there is only one or maybe two books around. Others are even older. One of the reasons lie with the popularity of Gimp and Linux itself. Another lies with the underlying problems of the lack of standardizations in installation, file structure and other problems of this sort between the many distributions. Maybe that is one of the reasons that camara mfg, scanner and printer mfg and other hardware makers do not support Linux out of the box. Still, I choose to use Linux for the many advantages and I do use and like Gimp. But I would like to get better and the issues mentioned above make it more difficult. I find it somewhat difficult to even install some plug-ins and use them effectively. In this area the lack of reasonably understandable documentation is a real challenge. I do not want to have to do a study just to use a simple plug-in. Even a proper graphical description of what the plug-in accomplishes is wanting.
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Subject:
Re: GIMP Wins!
Date:Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:39:51 +0100
measekite wrote,on my timestamp of 25/01/2009 4:53 AM: > > One of the major problems with Gimp is quality and complete up to date > (latest version) documentation along with an abundance of quality 3rd > party documentation and tutorials that are not written by propeller heads. I'd settle for 16-bit colour everywhere and SOME Photoshop plugins being able to run from GIMP. So far, I got 0 (none) to work, using the latest of everything. :( And yes, I know about the 16-bit movie version, yaddayadda...
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Subject:
Re: GIMP Wins!
Date:Sat, 24 Jan 2009 19:04:08 +0100
philo wrote: > > > I've been a serious amateur photographer for about 38 years now. > > Though I've been in quite a few photo shows through the years... > I was recently given my first feature. Where, what, how? > The large photo that I placed in the gallery window > was done in GIMP. > > By using the "edge detect" feature I got an effect that is equivalent to > doing a darkroom solarization. It would be nice to see the image. Using Gimp you can easily add a copyright into it, although I prefer to use Imagemagick for that. It is always nice to see what one is talking about. houghi -- This was written under the influence of the following: | Artist : Grateful Dead | Song : Around And Around | Album : Dick's Picks
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Subject:
Re: GIMP Wins!
Date:Sat, 24 Jan 2009 20:07:43 +0100
"houghi" <houghi@houghi.org.invalid> wrote in message news:slrngnmm0o.8um.houghi@pasta.houghi... > philo wrote: >> >> >> I've been a serious amateur photographer for about 38 years now. >> >> Though I've been in quite a few photo shows through the years... >> I was recently given my first feature. > > Where, what, how? > >> The large photo that I placed in the gallery window >> was done in GIMP. >> >> By using the "edge detect" feature I got an effect that is equivalent to >> doing a darkroom solarization. > > It would be nice to see the image. Using Gimp you can easily add a > copyright into it, although I prefer to use Imagemagick for that. > > It is always nice to see what one is talking about. > > houghi > -- Here is the image http://www.plazaearth.com/philo/electric.jpg The show I have is in Milwaukee at a Gallery/Restaurant in the "downtown" area... I am really sold on GIMP. It has way more features that I'll ever need.. and though Photoshop is great of course...it's very expensive and has about a million features I'd never use > This was written under the influence of the following: > | Artist : Grateful Dead > | Song : Around And Around > | Album : Dick's Picks
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Subject:
Re: GIMP Wins!
Date:Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:53:58 +0100
On Sat, 24 Jan 2009 13:07:43 -0600, philo wrote: > "houghi" <houghi@houghi.org.invalid> wrote in message > news:slrngnmm0o.8um.houghi@pasta.houghi... >> philo wrote: >>> >>> >>> I've been a serious amateur photographer for about 38 years now. >>> >>> Though I've been in quite a few photo shows through the years... >>> I was recently given my first feature. >> >> Where, what, how? >> >>> The large photo that I placed in the gallery window >>> was done in GIMP. >>> >>> By using the "edge detect" feature I got an effect that is equivalent to >>> doing a darkroom solarization. >> >> It would be nice to see the image. Using Gimp you can easily add a >> copyright into it, although I prefer to use Imagemagick for that. >> >> It is always nice to see what one is talking about. >> >> houghi >> -- > > > > Here is the image > > > http://www.plazaearth.com/philo/electric.jpg > > > The show I have is in Milwaukee > at a Gallery/Restaurant in the "downtown" area... > > I am really sold on GIMP. > > It has way more features that I'll ever need.. > and though Photoshop is great of course...it's very expensive > and has about a million features I'd never use From a Gimp user I will say that the Photoshop algorithms are better and Gimp is missing adjustment layers that is very important for photo editing. It is also missing good printer support and good color management. > >> This was written under the influence of the following: | Artist : >> Grateful Dead >> | Song : Around And Around >> | Album : Dick's Picks
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Subject:
Re: GIMP Wins!
Date:Sun, 25 Jan 2009 15:50:33 +0100
philo wrote:
> http://www.plazaearth.com/philo/electric.jpg
Very nice.
> The show I have is in Milwaukee
> at a Gallery/Restaurant in the "downtown" area...
>
> I am really sold on GIMP.
>
> It has way more features that I'll ever need..
> and though Photoshop is great of course...it's very expensive
> and has about a million features I'd never use
To me it is not so much the tool as it is the person to make great
images and pictures. So I aplaud you and not the tool.
houghi
--
Theologians can pursuade themselves of anything. Anyone who can worship
a trinity and insists that his religion is a monotheism can believe
anything -- just give him time to rationalize it.
Robert A. Heinlein, JOB: A Comedy of Justice
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Subject:
Re: GIMP Wins!
Date:Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:27:57 +0100
"houghi" <houghi@houghi.org.invalid> wrote in message news:slrngnov1p.9gq.houghi@pasta.houghi... > philo wrote: >> http://www.plazaearth.com/philo/electric.jpg > > Very nice. > >> The show I have is in Milwaukee >> at a Gallery/Restaurant in the "downtown" area... >> >> I am really sold on GIMP. >> >> It has way more features that I'll ever need.. >> and though Photoshop is great of course...it's very expensive >> and has about a million features I'd never use > > To me it is not so much the tool as it is the person to make great > images and pictures. So I aplaud you and not the tool. > > houghi > Thank you. I generally use photo editing software simply to bring my print as close to the image I saw in my head while taking the picture... a little cropping perhaps, of maybe boosting some faded colors. In the case of the photo I posted though... I went a bit further...but still nothing that could not have been easily done in a darkroom.
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Subject:
GIMP Wins!
Date:Sat, 24 Jan 2009 14:04:26 +0100
I've been a serious amateur photographer for about 38 years now. Though I've been in quite a few photo shows through the years... I was recently given my first feature. The large photo that I placed in the gallery window was done in GIMP. By using the "edge detect" feature I got an effect that is equivalent to doing a darkroom solarization. Though I get tons of good comments, I don't think that any one knows that by using GIMP, it took me all of five minutes worth of work, (if that much).
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Subject:
Re: GIMP Wins!
Date:Sat, 24 Jan 2009 18:53:49 +0100
On Sat, 24 Jan 2009 07:04:26 -0600, philo wrote: > I've been a serious amateur photographer for about 38 years now. > > Though I've been in quite a few photo shows through the years... > I was recently given my first feature. > > The large photo that I placed in the gallery window > was done in GIMP. > > By using the "edge detect" feature I got an effect that is equivalent to > doing a darkroom solarization. > > Though I get tons of good comments, > I don't think that any one knows that by using GIMP, > it took me all of five minutes worth of work, > (if that much). One of the major problems with Gimp is quality and complete up to date (latest version) documentation along with an abundance of quality 3rd party documentation and tutorials that are not written by propeller heads. There needs to be more photo-centric type of documentation as opposed to graphic arts. This is available in Photoshop. Now with the existing Gimp documentation one can figure out how to do many of the basics but it is more difficult to go beyond. Just look at the supporting books that claim to be up to date but are many versions behind. And there is only one or maybe two books around. Others are even older. One of the reasons lie with the popularity of Gimp and Linux itself. Another lies with the underlying problems of the lack of standardizations in installation, file structure and other problems of this sort between the many distributions. Maybe that is one of the reasons that camara mfg, scanner and printer mfg and other hardware makers do not support Linux out of the box. Still, I choose to use Linux for the many advantages and I do use and like Gimp. But I would like to get better and the issues mentioned above make it more difficult. I find it somewhat difficult to even install some plug-ins and use them effectively. In this area the lack of reasonably understandable documentation is a real challenge. I do not want to have to do a study just to use a simple plug-in. Even a proper graphical description of what the plug-in accomplishes is wanting.
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Subject:
Re: GIMP Wins!
Date:Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:39:51 +0100
measekite wrote,on my timestamp of 25/01/2009 4:53 AM: > > One of the major problems with Gimp is quality and complete up to date > (latest version) documentation along with an abundance of quality 3rd > party documentation and tutorials that are not written by propeller heads. I'd settle for 16-bit colour everywhere and SOME Photoshop plugins being able to run from GIMP. So far, I got 0 (none) to work, using the latest of everything. :( And yes, I know about the 16-bit movie version, yaddayadda...
Message-ID:<slrngnmm0o.8um.houghi@pasta.houghi>
Subject:
Re: GIMP Wins!
Date:Sat, 24 Jan 2009 19:04:08 +0100
philo wrote: > > > I've been a serious amateur photographer for about 38 years now. > > Though I've been in quite a few photo shows through the years... > I was recently given my first feature. Where, what, how? > The large photo that I placed in the gallery window > was done in GIMP. > > By using the "edge detect" feature I got an effect that is equivalent to > doing a darkroom solarization. It would be nice to see the image. Using Gimp you can easily add a copyright into it, although I prefer to use Imagemagick for that. It is always nice to see what one is talking about. houghi -- This was written under the influence of the following: | Artist : Grateful Dead | Song : Around And Around | Album : Dick's Picks
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Subject:
Re: GIMP Wins!
Date:Sat, 24 Jan 2009 20:07:43 +0100
"houghi" <houghi@houghi.org.invalid> wrote in message news:slrngnmm0o.8um.houghi@pasta.houghi... > philo wrote: >> >> >> I've been a serious amateur photographer for about 38 years now. >> >> Though I've been in quite a few photo shows through the years... >> I was recently given my first feature. > > Where, what, how? > >> The large photo that I placed in the gallery window >> was done in GIMP. >> >> By using the "edge detect" feature I got an effect that is equivalent to >> doing a darkroom solarization. > > It would be nice to see the image. Using Gimp you can easily add a > copyright into it, although I prefer to use Imagemagick for that. > > It is always nice to see what one is talking about. > > houghi > -- Here is the image http://www.plazaearth.com/philo/electric.jpg The show I have is in Milwaukee at a Gallery/Restaurant in the "downtown" area... I am really sold on GIMP. It has way more features that I'll ever need.. and though Photoshop is great of course...it's very expensive and has about a million features I'd never use > This was written under the influence of the following: > | Artist : Grateful Dead > | Song : Around And Around > | Album : Dick's Picks
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Subject:
Re: GIMP Wins!
Date:Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:53:58 +0100
On Sat, 24 Jan 2009 13:07:43 -0600, philo wrote: > "houghi" <houghi@houghi.org.invalid> wrote in message > news:slrngnmm0o.8um.houghi@pasta.houghi... >> philo wrote: >>> >>> >>> I've been a serious amateur photographer for about 38 years now. >>> >>> Though I've been in quite a few photo shows through the years... >>> I was recently given my first feature. >> >> Where, what, how? >> >>> The large photo that I placed in the gallery window >>> was done in GIMP. >>> >>> By using the "edge detect" feature I got an effect that is equivalent to >>> doing a darkroom solarization. >> >> It would be nice to see the image. Using Gimp you can easily add a >> copyright into it, although I prefer to use Imagemagick for that. >> >> It is always nice to see what one is talking about. >> >> houghi >> -- > > > > Here is the image > > > http://www.plazaearth.com/philo/electric.jpg > > > The show I have is in Milwaukee > at a Gallery/Restaurant in the "downtown" area... > > I am really sold on GIMP. > > It has way more features that I'll ever need.. > and though Photoshop is great of course...it's very expensive > and has about a million features I'd never use From a Gimp user I will say that the Photoshop algorithms are better and Gimp is missing adjustment layers that is very important for photo editing. It is also missing good printer support and good color management. > >> This was written under the influence of the following: | Artist : >> Grateful Dead >> | Song : Around And Around >> | Album : Dick's Picks
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Subject:
Re: GIMP Wins!
Date:Sun, 25 Jan 2009 15:50:33 +0100
philo wrote:
> http://www.plazaearth.com/philo/electric.jpg
Very nice.
> The show I have is in Milwaukee
> at a Gallery/Restaurant in the "downtown" area...
>
> I am really sold on GIMP.
>
> It has way more features that I'll ever need..
> and though Photoshop is great of course...it's very expensive
> and has about a million features I'd never use
To me it is not so much the tool as it is the person to make great
images and pictures. So I aplaud you and not the tool.
houghi
--
Theologians can pursuade themselves of anything. Anyone who can worship
a trinity and insists that his religion is a monotheism can believe
anything -- just give him time to rationalize it.
Robert A. Heinlein, JOB: A Comedy of Justice
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Subject:
Re: GIMP Wins!
Date:Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:27:57 +0100
"houghi" <houghi@houghi.org.invalid> wrote in message news:slrngnov1p.9gq.houghi@pasta.houghi... > philo wrote: >> http://www.plazaearth.com/philo/electric.jpg > > Very nice. > >> The show I have is in Milwaukee >> at a Gallery/Restaurant in the "downtown" area... >> >> I am really sold on GIMP. >> >> It has way more features that I'll ever need.. >> and though Photoshop is great of course...it's very expensive >> and has about a million features I'd never use > > To me it is not so much the tool as it is the person to make great > images and pictures. So I aplaud you and not the tool. > > houghi > Thank you. I generally use photo editing software simply to bring my print as close to the image I saw in my head while taking the picture... a little cropping perhaps, of maybe boosting some faded colors. In the case of the photo I posted though... I went a bit further...but still nothing that could not have been easily done in a darkroom.
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Subject:
GIMP Wins!
Date:Sat, 24 Jan 2009 14:04:26 +0100
I've been a serious amateur photographer for about 38 years now. Though I've been in quite a few photo shows through the years... I was recently given my first feature. The large photo that I placed in the gallery window was done in GIMP. By using the "edge detect" feature I got an effect that is equivalent to doing a darkroom solarization. Though I get tons of good comments, I don't think that any one knows that by using GIMP, it took me all of five minutes worth of work, (if that much).
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Subject:
Re: GIMP Wins!
Date:Sat, 24 Jan 2009 18:53:49 +0100
On Sat, 24 Jan 2009 07:04:26 -0600, philo wrote: > I've been a serious amateur photographer for about 38 years now. > > Though I've been in quite a few photo shows through the years... > I was recently given my first feature. > > The large photo that I placed in the gallery window > was done in GIMP. > > By using the "edge detect" feature I got an effect that is equivalent to > doing a darkroom solarization. > > Though I get tons of good comments, > I don't think that any one knows that by using GIMP, > it took me all of five minutes worth of work, > (if that much). One of the major problems with Gimp is quality and complete up to date (latest version) documentation along with an abundance of quality 3rd party documentation and tutorials that are not written by propeller heads. There needs to be more photo-centric type of documentation as opposed to graphic arts. This is available in Photoshop. Now with the existing Gimp documentation one can figure out how to do many of the basics but it is more difficult to go beyond. Just look at the supporting books that claim to be up to date but are many versions behind. And there is only one or maybe two books around. Others are even older. One of the reasons lie with the popularity of Gimp and Linux itself. Another lies with the underlying problems of the lack of standardizations in installation, file structure and other problems of this sort between the many distributions. Maybe that is one of the reasons that camara mfg, scanner and printer mfg and other hardware makers do not support Linux out of the box. Still, I choose to use Linux for the many advantages and I do use and like Gimp. But I would like to get better and the issues mentioned above make it more difficult. I find it somewhat difficult to even install some plug-ins and use them effectively. In this area the lack of reasonably understandable documentation is a real challenge. I do not want to have to do a study just to use a simple plug-in. Even a proper graphical description of what the plug-in accomplishes is wanting.
Message-ID:<glgc4v$k6p$2@news.motzarella.org>
Subject:
Re: GIMP Wins!
Date:Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:39:51 +0100
measekite wrote,on my timestamp of 25/01/2009 4:53 AM: > > One of the major problems with Gimp is quality and complete up to date > (latest version) documentation along with an abundance of quality 3rd > party documentation and tutorials that are not written by propeller heads. I'd settle for 16-bit colour everywhere and SOME Photoshop plugins being able to run from GIMP. So far, I got 0 (none) to work, using the latest of everything. :( And yes, I know about the 16-bit movie version, yaddayadda...
Message-ID:<slrngnmm0o.8um.houghi@pasta.houghi>
Subject:
Re: GIMP Wins!
Date:Sat, 24 Jan 2009 19:04:08 +0100
philo wrote: > > > I've been a serious amateur photographer for about 38 years now. > > Though I've been in quite a few photo shows through the years... > I was recently given my first feature. Where, what, how? > The large photo that I placed in the gallery window > was done in GIMP. > > By using the "edge detect" feature I got an effect that is equivalent to > doing a darkroom solarization. It would be nice to see the image. Using Gimp you can easily add a copyright into it, although I prefer to use Imagemagick for that. It is always nice to see what one is talking about. houghi -- This was written under the influence of the following: | Artist : Grateful Dead | Song : Around And Around | Album : Dick's Picks
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Subject:
Re: GIMP Wins!
Date:Sat, 24 Jan 2009 20:07:43 +0100
"houghi" <houghi@houghi.org.invalid> wrote in message news:slrngnmm0o.8um.houghi@pasta.houghi... > philo wrote: >> >> >> I've been a serious amateur photographer for about 38 years now. >> >> Though I've been in quite a few photo shows through the years... >> I was recently given my first feature. > > Where, what, how? > >> The large photo that I placed in the gallery window >> was done in GIMP. >> >> By using the "edge detect" feature I got an effect that is equivalent to >> doing a darkroom solarization. > > It would be nice to see the image. Using Gimp you can easily add a > copyright into it, although I prefer to use Imagemagick for that. > > It is always nice to see what one is talking about. > > houghi > -- Here is the image http://www.plazaearth.com/philo/electric.jpg The show I have is in Milwaukee at a Gallery/Restaurant in the "downtown" area... I am really sold on GIMP. It has way more features that I'll ever need.. and though Photoshop is great of course...it's very expensive and has about a million features I'd never use > This was written under the influence of the following: > | Artist : Grateful Dead > | Song : Around And Around > | Album : Dick's Picks
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Subject:
Re: GIMP Wins!
Date:Sun, 25 Jan 2009 01:53:58 +0100
On Sat, 24 Jan 2009 13:07:43 -0600, philo wrote: > "houghi" <houghi@houghi.org.invalid> wrote in message > news:slrngnmm0o.8um.houghi@pasta.houghi... >> philo wrote: >>> >>> >>> I've been a serious amateur photographer for about 38 years now. >>> >>> Though I've been in quite a few photo shows through the years... >>> I was recently given my first feature. >> >> Where, what, how? >> >>> The large photo that I placed in the gallery window >>> was done in GIMP. >>> >>> By using the "edge detect" feature I got an effect that is equivalent to >>> doing a darkroom solarization. >> >> It would be nice to see the image. Using Gimp you can easily add a >> copyright into it, although I prefer to use Imagemagick for that. >> >> It is always nice to see what one is talking about. >> >> houghi >> -- > > > > Here is the image > > > http://www.plazaearth.com/philo/electric.jpg > > > The show I have is in Milwaukee > at a Gallery/Restaurant in the "downtown" area... > > I am really sold on GIMP. > > It has way more features that I'll ever need.. > and though Photoshop is great of course...it's very expensive > and has about a million features I'd never use From a Gimp user I will say that the Photoshop algorithms are better and Gimp is missing adjustment layers that is very important for photo editing. It is also missing good printer support and good color management. > >> This was written under the influence of the following: | Artist : >> Grateful Dead >> | Song : Around And Around >> | Album : Dick's Picks
Message-ID:<slrngnov1p.9gq.houghi@pasta.houghi>
Subject:
Re: GIMP Wins!
Date:Sun, 25 Jan 2009 15:50:33 +0100
philo wrote:
> http://www.plazaearth.com/philo/electric.jpg
Very nice.
> The show I have is in Milwaukee
> at a Gallery/Restaurant in the "downtown" area...
>
> I am really sold on GIMP.
>
> It has way more features that I'll ever need..
> and though Photoshop is great of course...it's very expensive
> and has about a million features I'd never use
To me it is not so much the tool as it is the person to make great
images and pictures. So I aplaud you and not the tool.
houghi
--
Theologians can pursuade themselves of anything. Anyone who can worship
a trinity and insists that his religion is a monotheism can believe
anything -- just give him time to rationalize it.
Robert A. Heinlein, JOB: A Comedy of Justice
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Subject:
Re: GIMP Wins!
Date:Sun, 25 Jan 2009 19:27:57 +0100
"houghi" <houghi@houghi.org.invalid> wrote in message news:slrngnov1p.9gq.houghi@pasta.houghi... > philo wrote: >> http://www.plazaearth.com/philo/electric.jpg > > Very nice. > >> The show I have is in Milwaukee >> at a Gallery/Restaurant in the "downtown" area... >> >> I am really sold on GIMP. >> >> It has way more features that I'll ever need.. >> and though Photoshop is great of course...it's very expensive >> and has about a million features I'd never use > > To me it is not so much the tool as it is the person to make great > images and pictures. So I aplaud you and not the tool. > > houghi > Thank you. I generally use photo editing software simply to bring my print as close to the image I saw in my head while taking the picture... a little cropping perhaps, of maybe boosting some faded colors. In the case of the photo I posted though... I went a bit further...but still nothing that could not have been easily done in a darkroom.