Can people sell Gimp

Message-ID:<d2364988-3d1b-474b-bda0-080fefbe0619@s31g2000yqs.googlegroups.com>
Subject:

Can people sell Gimp?

Date:Tue, 5 Jan 2010 02:06:33 +0100


I recently won an auction on E-bay, UK, for a programme I thought was
BEST PHOTO EDITING SOFTWARE 2009 - EDIT DIGITAL IMAGES - no mention of
the word GIMP.  I won the AUCTION.  Cost =A33.98p. Great thought I.
Imagine my surpsie when I received the item this morning and
discovered the Photo Editing programme was in fact GIMP!   I wrote to
the seller and asked for a refund and this is a copy of his/her reply
to me :-
START
Hi,
Gimp is GPL licensed. I am legally entitled to charge for it's
distribution. Google "GPL" license !!
The best part of =A32.00 goes on Ebay and Paypal fees, along with the
cost of the CD mailer,stamp, label and CD.
I don't do this to make a profit, but I happen to believe that people
should have access to decent software at a "fraction" of the price
charged by you know who !!
Most people that purchase this software can't download it because
they, either have no internet connection or can't afford the
alternative.
Leave positive feedback and you will get your moneyback in full;
otherwise you can report me to who you like. The product obviously
works and as such I'm within the law.
Regards,
AD
- mjan4319
FIN.

Can this be so?  Do Google actually licence people to sell GIMP at e-
bay auctions?  If this is so then why advertise it as FREE to anyone
and can be passed on to anyone?  If this is true then there is
something wrong some where.  I will be interested to hear comments
please.

Regards
Animator

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Subject:

Re: Can people sell Gimp?

Date:Tue, 5 Jan 2010 06:16:47 +0100


Animator <cmd_isme@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
:
: Gimp is GPL licensed. I am legally entitled to charge for it's
: distribution. Google "GPL" license !!
:
: Can this be so?  Do Google actually licence people to sell GIMP at e-
: bay auctions?  If this is so then why advertise it as FREE to anyone
: and can be passed on to anyone?  If this is true then there is
: something wrong some where.  I will be interested to hear comments
: please.
: 
	Google doesn't have anything to do with the GPL. And,
    yes, people can legally charge to re-distribute software
    that is licensed under GPL.

							Bruce
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        - Thuganlitha
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        Robert Don Hughes

Message-ID:<slrnhk5ne2.evn.houghi@penne.houghi>
Subject:

Re: Can people sell Gimp?

Date:Tue, 5 Jan 2010 07:35:46 +0100


Bruce Burden wrote:
> Animator <cmd_isme@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> :
>: Gimp is GPL licensed. I am legally entitled to charge for it's
>: distribution. Google "GPL" license !!
> :
>: Can this be so?  Do Google actually licence people to sell GIMP at e-
>: bay auctions?  If this is so then why advertise it as FREE to anyone
>: and can be passed on to anyone?  If this is true then there is
>: something wrong some where.  I will be interested to hear comments
>: please.
>: 
> 	Google doesn't have anything to do with the GPL. And,
>     yes, people can legally charge to re-distribute software
>     that is licensed under GPL.

And to talk about the "free". It is free as in speech, not free as in
beer.

houghi
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Message-ID:<40336583-2251-411b-9d32-77279d25f4e2@u7g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>
Subject:

Re: Can people sell Gimp?

Date:Tue, 5 Jan 2010 10:29:19 +0100


On Jan 5, 5:16=A0am, bruc...@realtime.net (Bruce Burden) wrote:
> Animator <cmd_i...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> :
> : Gimp is GPL licensed. I am legally entitled to charge for it's
> : distribution. Google "GPL" license !!
> :
> : Can this be so? =A0Do Google actually licence people to sell GIMP at e-
> : bay auctions? =A0If this is so then why advertise it as FREE to anyone
> : and can be passed on to anyone? =A0If this is true then there is
> : something wrong some where. =A0I will be interested to hear comments
> : please.
> :
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Google doesn't have anything to do with the GPL. And,
> =A0 =A0 yes, people can legally charge to re-distribute software
> =A0 =A0 that is licensed under GPL.
>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Bruce
> --
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> =A0 "I like bad!" =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Bruce B=
urden =A0 =A0Austin, TX.
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 - Thuganlitha
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 The Power and the Prophet
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 Robert Don Hughes

Hi Guys,

Thank you both for your enlightening replies.

Regards
Animator

Message-ID:<f9b1f74f-c338-4f09-8beb-c87ab64407fc@m26g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>
Subject:

Re: Can people sell Gimp?

Date:Tue, 5 Jan 2010 10:56:29 +0100

On 5 Jan., 02:06, Animator <cmd_i...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> Gimp is GPL licensed. I am legally entitled to charge for it's
> distribution. Google "GPL" license !!

You could argue that because they apparently don't know the
organization who's providing the license, it may be reasonable to
assume that they are violating the license.

You do not provide enough details to back up such claims, though.

One important point is that if they charge for the software, they have
to provide the source code as well - redirecting to another
distributor (e.g. a FTP mirror) is not enough. See
http://www.gnu.org/licenses/old-licenses/gpl-2.0.html section 3.

Regards,
Michael

Message-ID:<slrnhk6lrq.2d1.houghi@penne.houghi>
Subject:

Re: Can people sell Gimp?

Date:Tue, 5 Jan 2010 16:15:06 +0100


Michael Schumacher wrote:
> One important point is that if they charge for the software, they have
> to provide the source code as well - redirecting to another
> distributor (e.g. a FTP mirror) is not enough. See
> http://www.gnu.org/licenses/old-licenses/gpl-2.0.html section 3.

Wether they charge for the software or not is irrelevant.

houghi
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